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[email protected] <[email protected]>Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 3:08 AM
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Dear Kenneth,
Thank you for your interest in the EAPAP Congress, a full list of speakers can be found at www.eapap.eu
This event is being held to launch the European Association of Parental Alienation Practitioners and involves 14 EU countries, three hundred delegates from around the world and world leading authorities on parental alienation who will debate the legal and mental health interlock which is necessary to deal with cases of parental alienation.
The Congress will additionally examine the use of ICD-11 and the inclusion of PA along with the United Nations Rights of the Child Articles 3, 4 8, 9 & 10 and how to protect a child’s right to these through divorce and separation.
If you would like to book tickets for the event you can do so at the website.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
Co-ordinator - The EAPAP Team
BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Bcc: [email protected]
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"
[email protected] <[email protected]>Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:54 AM
To: BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>
Dear Kenneth,
Thank you for your email.
Dr Childress and his work are known to EAPAP because of his continued denigration of other professionals in this field. This and his continued assertion that parental alienation does not exist, means that he has effectively excluded himself from any collaborative endeavour.
The issue of families affected by suicide is one which the EAPAP team is acutely aware of and one which it considers to be a dreadful outcome of the lack of standardised support for families in this field. EAPAP has brought together 300 professionals, including delegates from the United Nations to urgently examine the ways in which effective models of intervention can be made widely available across Europe.
The EAPAP team is also aware that Dr Childress’s focus is upon the DSM-5 diagnosis of psychological child abuse. You should note that DSM-5 is not used in Europe which instead uses ICD-11. Parental alienation is included in ICD-11 and is already being used by practitioners in assessments and treatment.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
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BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:11 PM
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Hi Analiese,
Thank you for your response.
I am happy to see that Dr. Childress's work is known to the EAPAP and also they are acutely aware of the outcome of suicide from Parental Alienation.
I do feel sad about yours and other professionals feelings of him denigrating other professionals.
I do believe your opinion, of Dr. Childress's view, that Parental alienation does not exist may be a bit misplaced, but this is not the best place to discuss that.
But, to get down to the crux of my question: With the EAPAP aware of Dr. Childress's (AB-PA) work and knowing suicide is an outcome from Parental Alienation for children and parents:
regardless of the feelings involved, why would the EAPAP ignore (Refuse to address or review) a solution or partial solution to parental alienation knowing children and parents are committing suicide?
Regardless the way anyone of them feels toward Dr. Childress, if they are professionals, is it not their ethical responsibility to try and find any solution to protect and prevent harm?
Thank you for your time in addressing this question as it means very much to me.
Have a Beautiful day.
Kenneth R. Gottfried
MemberPrinting.com
BuddhaStein.com
828-406-8760
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"
Maya Angelou
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited.
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[email protected] <[email protected]>Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:07 PM
To: BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>
Dear Kenneth,
Thank you for your email.
Dr Childress has a model which is useable in some circumstances but it is not the panacea to the problem and world experts do not view his work as being anything significantly different to what is already done worldwide to assist families. Additionally what he outlines is exactly the same as the methods being used around the world already, it is simply set in slightly different terminology with slightly different references.
I am sorry to make you feel sad but perhaps your hope and belief that Dr Childress has new something which can resolve everything is misplaced. If you look at the international research evidence you will find that his work is very like others and in reality shows nothing very much which is new.
Clearly Dr Childress does not accept this and so his continued behaviours towards his colleagues make it impossible for any discussion or collaboration.
Dr Childress’s work has been reviewed by Bill Bernet of the PASG and by Karen Woodall for the PASG in 2015. Both concluded that whilst his curation of thoughts were interesting, there was nothing new in his proposals. They have, as you hope they would, carried out their responsibilities, but It seems that this simply triggered the campaign of denigration by Dr Childress as he could not or would not accept their views.
I am sorry not to be able to assist you further but please be assured that we are working tirelessly, day and night, to end the scourge of parental alienation both in Europe and worldwide.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
On behalf of the EAPAP Team
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From: "BuddhaStein com" <[email protected]>
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BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:50 PM
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and I hope you do not take offense to any of them, its just I have watch 3 people in the last 6 weeks commit suicide.
[email protected] <[email protected]>Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:36 AM
To: BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>
Dear Kenneth,
Please understand that we too are working with people whose lives are devastated and we understand the need to address this problem as swiftly as possible. This is why we have our conference coming up, we have dedicated our time to bringing together the key people in Europe policy making, who can make things change swiftly.
In my view, It is extremely disingenuous to suggest that Bill Bernet and Karen Woodall’s review of Dr Childress’s work, in which they conclude that he does not have anything new (although he has curated it in an interesting way), leads directly to people committing suicide. This is simply untrue. Dr Childress has a workable model in some circumstances, however it would not for example, work in Europe where the DSM 5 is not used. This would therefore not prevent anyone from committing suicide and I hope you are able to see how you are making links which simply do not exist. I understand that you are distressed but it is simply a misplaced conclusion which you are drawing.
You can find all of the reviews and much more at PASG which is at https://pasg.info
Here is a link to a peer reviewed article by Dr Lowenstein in the UK. I also include a link to his website. Sadly Dr Lowenstein is now deceased but he and Karen Woodall and Dr Hamish Cameron in the UK were working with attachment theory a long time before 2014. I also include links to Karen’s blog in 2013, which discusses attachment theory.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233461286_Attachment_Theory_and_Parental_Alienation
http://www.parental-alienation.info
Karen Woodall on attachment theory in 2013
https://karenwoodall.blog/2013/07/31/not-in-the-best-interests-of-the-child-attachment-disorder-arising-from-upholding-the-childs-decision-to-reject-a-parent-after-separation/
whilst I understand that you are keen to promote Dr Childress, I must now draw a line under our communication. I have attempted to give you what you are seeking and I hope that you will understand that we must now focus upon our conference.
If you would like to attend the conference we do still have some tickets left although we are now very close to capacity.
May I wish you well and assure you that we continue to work tirelessly towards significant change in this field using the models which are proven to work around the world.
I have added you to our mailing list and you will receive the Conference paper including details of our research which is currently being undertaken and details of the avenues where we have made impact.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
On behalf of The EAPAP Team
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From: "BuddhaStein com" <[email protected]>
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BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Bcc: [email protected]
Dear Analiese,
Once again thank you for your response. I believe you may have misinterpreted some of my intended questions. If I may clear this up please I would appreciate that.
Again clarifications & my questions will be in blue.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:36 AM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Kenneth,
Please understand that we too are working with people whose lives are devastated and we understand the need to address this problem as swiftly as possible. This is why we have our conference coming up, we have dedicated our time to bringing together the key people in Europe policy making, who can make things change swiftly.
In my view, It is extremely disingenuous to suggest that Bill Bernet and Karen Woodall’s review of Dr Childress’s work, in which they conclude that he does not have anything new (although he has curated it in an interesting way), leads directly to people committing suicide. This is simply untrue.
First lets clear this up: The fact that Bill Bernet and Karen Woodall knew about Dr. Childress work years ago, and, at that time, was the ONLY DIAGNOSIS for connecting Parental Alienation to Psychological Child Abuse, they chose to gaslight Dr. Childress saying things like, "He is hard to work with", "His book is not the bible", "Guru". By doing this they refused to do their ethical duty to protect children and parents. If I am correct Karen said Dr. Childress's work only addresses severe Parental Alienation. In which case the majority of suicides come from this sector. Therefor by their complicity she completely allowed suicide and lifelong issues thru their neglect and gaslighting of Dr. Childress. Please correct me on how you believe I am wrong.
Dr Childress has a workable model in some circumstances, however it would not for example, work in Europe where the DSM-5 is not used. {{ STOP STOP STOP, SO, Karen Woodall chose not to work with and adapt Dr. Childress's model to work in Europe, which protecting people from suicide! Your statement is completely horrifying.}} This would therefore not prevent anyone from committing suicide and I hope you are able to see how you are making links which simply do not exist. I understand that you are distressed but it is simply a misplaced conclusion which you are drawing. I am sorry but I do not believe so. If Dr Childress has a workable model in some circumstances is it not better to save some people in those circumstances? That would definitely fall under a duty to protect. Are you saying Dr. Bernet and Karen Woodall would let a segment of people commit suicide because it didn't solve all Parental Alienation?
If the DSM-5 does not work in Europe then why would you have so many Americans that use the DSM-5 at the conference?
You can find all of the reviews and much more at PASG which is at https://pasg.info
Can you please help direct me out a bit. I searched for Childress in pasg.info and it came back with nothing. I really would like to follow your links to read there peer reviews.
Here is a link to a peer reviewed article by Dr Lowenstein in the UK. I also include a link to his website. Sadly Dr Lowenstein is now deceased but he and Karen Woodall and Dr Hamish Cameron in the UK were working with attachment theory a long time before 2014. I also include links to Karen’s blog in 2013, which discusses attachment theory.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233461286_Attachment_Theory_and_Parental_Alienation
GREAT ARTICLE, but I couldn't find the link where Parental alienation was linked to Psychological Child abuse. Did I miss that?. Again great article.
http://www.parental-alienation.info
Karen Woodall on attachment theory in 2013
https://karenwoodall.blog/2013/07/31/not-in-the-best-interests-of-the-child-attachment-disorder-arising-from-upholding-the-childs-decision-to-reject-a-parent-after-separation/
Once again: I do not see where here article links together Psychological Child Abuse. I again would like to state that Karen Woodall would benefit tremendously by working with a
working model, even if it just gives her a different perspective on the situation.
whilst I understand that you are keen to promote Dr Childress, I must now draw a line under our communication. I have attempted to give you what you are seeking and I hope that you will understand that we must now focus upon our conference.
I full understand you wishing to focus on making money from your conference while my focus is on saving children and parents from suicide.
If you would like to attend the conference we do still have some tickets left although we are now very close to capacity.
I appreciate you trying to sell me on the idea of urgency with limited space. Marketing is what I do for a living. Although, It does look like it could possibly be ok, but would be tremendously better if you invited everyone
and actually came together as one unified front.
May I wish you well and assure you that we continue to work tirelessly towards significant change in this field using the models which are proven to work around the world.
Now, while I hope you are right and bring an end to Parental Alienation: I am a little confused with this statement: If you do not care about the DSM-5 (You stated in paragraph #3) which is used in America, your current statement makes no sense.
I have added you to our mailing list and you will receive the Conference paper including details of our research which is currently being undertaken and details of the avenues where we have made impact.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
On behalf of The EAPAP Team
Have a Beautiful day.
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[email protected] <[email protected]>Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 3:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Dear Kenneth,
Thank you for your interest in the EAPAP Congress, a full list of speakers can be found at www.eapap.eu
This event is being held to launch the European Association of Parental Alienation Practitioners and involves 14 EU countries, three hundred delegates from around the world and world leading authorities on parental alienation who will debate the legal and mental health interlock which is necessary to deal with cases of parental alienation.
The Congress will additionally examine the use of ICD-11 and the inclusion of PA along with the United Nations Rights of the Child Articles 3, 4 8, 9 & 10 and how to protect a child’s right to these through divorce and separation.
If you would like to book tickets for the event you can do so at the website.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
Co-ordinator - The EAPAP Team
BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Bcc: [email protected]
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"
[email protected] <[email protected]>Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:54 AM
To: BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>
Dear Kenneth,
Thank you for your email.
Dr Childress and his work are known to EAPAP because of his continued denigration of other professionals in this field. This and his continued assertion that parental alienation does not exist, means that he has effectively excluded himself from any collaborative endeavour.
The issue of families affected by suicide is one which the EAPAP team is acutely aware of and one which it considers to be a dreadful outcome of the lack of standardised support for families in this field. EAPAP has brought together 300 professionals, including delegates from the United Nations to urgently examine the ways in which effective models of intervention can be made widely available across Europe.
The EAPAP team is also aware that Dr Childress’s focus is upon the DSM-5 diagnosis of psychological child abuse. You should note that DSM-5 is not used in Europe which instead uses ICD-11. Parental alienation is included in ICD-11 and is already being used by practitioners in assessments and treatment.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
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BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Bcc: [email protected]
Hi Analiese,
Thank you for your response.
I am happy to see that Dr. Childress's work is known to the EAPAP and also they are acutely aware of the outcome of suicide from Parental Alienation.
I do feel sad about yours and other professionals feelings of him denigrating other professionals.
I do believe your opinion, of Dr. Childress's view, that Parental alienation does not exist may be a bit misplaced, but this is not the best place to discuss that.
But, to get down to the crux of my question: With the EAPAP aware of Dr. Childress's (AB-PA) work and knowing suicide is an outcome from Parental Alienation for children and parents:
regardless of the feelings involved, why would the EAPAP ignore (Refuse to address or review) a solution or partial solution to parental alienation knowing children and parents are committing suicide?
Regardless the way anyone of them feels toward Dr. Childress, if they are professionals, is it not their ethical responsibility to try and find any solution to protect and prevent harm?
Thank you for your time in addressing this question as it means very much to me.
Have a Beautiful day.
Kenneth R. Gottfried
MemberPrinting.com
BuddhaStein.com
828-406-8760
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"
Maya Angelou
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited.
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[email protected] <[email protected]>Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:07 PM
To: BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>
Dear Kenneth,
Thank you for your email.
Dr Childress has a model which is useable in some circumstances but it is not the panacea to the problem and world experts do not view his work as being anything significantly different to what is already done worldwide to assist families. Additionally what he outlines is exactly the same as the methods being used around the world already, it is simply set in slightly different terminology with slightly different references.
I am sorry to make you feel sad but perhaps your hope and belief that Dr Childress has new something which can resolve everything is misplaced. If you look at the international research evidence you will find that his work is very like others and in reality shows nothing very much which is new.
Clearly Dr Childress does not accept this and so his continued behaviours towards his colleagues make it impossible for any discussion or collaboration.
Dr Childress’s work has been reviewed by Bill Bernet of the PASG and by Karen Woodall for the PASG in 2015. Both concluded that whilst his curation of thoughts were interesting, there was nothing new in his proposals. They have, as you hope they would, carried out their responsibilities, but It seems that this simply triggered the campaign of denigration by Dr Childress as he could not or would not accept their views.
I am sorry not to be able to assist you further but please be assured that we are working tirelessly, day and night, to end the scourge of parental alienation both in Europe and worldwide.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
On behalf of the EAPAP Team
-----Original Message-----
From: "BuddhaStein com" <[email protected]>
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BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:50 PM
To: [email protected]
and I hope you do not take offense to any of them, its just I have watch 3 people in the last 6 weeks commit suicide.
[email protected] <[email protected]>Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:36 AM
To: BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>
Dear Kenneth,
Please understand that we too are working with people whose lives are devastated and we understand the need to address this problem as swiftly as possible. This is why we have our conference coming up, we have dedicated our time to bringing together the key people in Europe policy making, who can make things change swiftly.
In my view, It is extremely disingenuous to suggest that Bill Bernet and Karen Woodall’s review of Dr Childress’s work, in which they conclude that he does not have anything new (although he has curated it in an interesting way), leads directly to people committing suicide. This is simply untrue. Dr Childress has a workable model in some circumstances, however it would not for example, work in Europe where the DSM 5 is not used. This would therefore not prevent anyone from committing suicide and I hope you are able to see how you are making links which simply do not exist. I understand that you are distressed but it is simply a misplaced conclusion which you are drawing.
You can find all of the reviews and much more at PASG which is at https://pasg.info
Here is a link to a peer reviewed article by Dr Lowenstein in the UK. I also include a link to his website. Sadly Dr Lowenstein is now deceased but he and Karen Woodall and Dr Hamish Cameron in the UK were working with attachment theory a long time before 2014. I also include links to Karen’s blog in 2013, which discusses attachment theory.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233461286_Attachment_Theory_and_Parental_Alienation
http://www.parental-alienation.info
Karen Woodall on attachment theory in 2013
https://karenwoodall.blog/2013/07/31/not-in-the-best-interests-of-the-child-attachment-disorder-arising-from-upholding-the-childs-decision-to-reject-a-parent-after-separation/
whilst I understand that you are keen to promote Dr Childress, I must now draw a line under our communication. I have attempted to give you what you are seeking and I hope that you will understand that we must now focus upon our conference.
If you would like to attend the conference we do still have some tickets left although we are now very close to capacity.
May I wish you well and assure you that we continue to work tirelessly towards significant change in this field using the models which are proven to work around the world.
I have added you to our mailing list and you will receive the Conference paper including details of our research which is currently being undertaken and details of the avenues where we have made impact.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
On behalf of The EAPAP Team
-----Original Message-----
From: "BuddhaStein com" <[email protected]>
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BuddhaStein com <[email protected]>Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Bcc: [email protected]
Dear Analiese,
Once again thank you for your response. I believe you may have misinterpreted some of my intended questions. If I may clear this up please I would appreciate that.
Again clarifications & my questions will be in blue.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:36 AM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Kenneth,
Please understand that we too are working with people whose lives are devastated and we understand the need to address this problem as swiftly as possible. This is why we have our conference coming up, we have dedicated our time to bringing together the key people in Europe policy making, who can make things change swiftly.
In my view, It is extremely disingenuous to suggest that Bill Bernet and Karen Woodall’s review of Dr Childress’s work, in which they conclude that he does not have anything new (although he has curated it in an interesting way), leads directly to people committing suicide. This is simply untrue.
First lets clear this up: The fact that Bill Bernet and Karen Woodall knew about Dr. Childress work years ago, and, at that time, was the ONLY DIAGNOSIS for connecting Parental Alienation to Psychological Child Abuse, they chose to gaslight Dr. Childress saying things like, "He is hard to work with", "His book is not the bible", "Guru". By doing this they refused to do their ethical duty to protect children and parents. If I am correct Karen said Dr. Childress's work only addresses severe Parental Alienation. In which case the majority of suicides come from this sector. Therefor by their complicity she completely allowed suicide and lifelong issues thru their neglect and gaslighting of Dr. Childress. Please correct me on how you believe I am wrong.
Dr Childress has a workable model in some circumstances, however it would not for example, work in Europe where the DSM-5 is not used. {{ STOP STOP STOP, SO, Karen Woodall chose not to work with and adapt Dr. Childress's model to work in Europe, which protecting people from suicide! Your statement is completely horrifying.}} This would therefore not prevent anyone from committing suicide and I hope you are able to see how you are making links which simply do not exist. I understand that you are distressed but it is simply a misplaced conclusion which you are drawing. I am sorry but I do not believe so. If Dr Childress has a workable model in some circumstances is it not better to save some people in those circumstances? That would definitely fall under a duty to protect. Are you saying Dr. Bernet and Karen Woodall would let a segment of people commit suicide because it didn't solve all Parental Alienation?
If the DSM-5 does not work in Europe then why would you have so many Americans that use the DSM-5 at the conference?
You can find all of the reviews and much more at PASG which is at https://pasg.info
Can you please help direct me out a bit. I searched for Childress in pasg.info and it came back with nothing. I really would like to follow your links to read there peer reviews.
Here is a link to a peer reviewed article by Dr Lowenstein in the UK. I also include a link to his website. Sadly Dr Lowenstein is now deceased but he and Karen Woodall and Dr Hamish Cameron in the UK were working with attachment theory a long time before 2014. I also include links to Karen’s blog in 2013, which discusses attachment theory.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233461286_Attachment_Theory_and_Parental_Alienation
GREAT ARTICLE, but I couldn't find the link where Parental alienation was linked to Psychological Child abuse. Did I miss that?. Again great article.
http://www.parental-alienation.info
Karen Woodall on attachment theory in 2013
https://karenwoodall.blog/2013/07/31/not-in-the-best-interests-of-the-child-attachment-disorder-arising-from-upholding-the-childs-decision-to-reject-a-parent-after-separation/
Once again: I do not see where here article links together Psychological Child Abuse. I again would like to state that Karen Woodall would benefit tremendously by working with a
working model, even if it just gives her a different perspective on the situation.
whilst I understand that you are keen to promote Dr Childress, I must now draw a line under our communication. I have attempted to give you what you are seeking and I hope that you will understand that we must now focus upon our conference.
I full understand you wishing to focus on making money from your conference while my focus is on saving children and parents from suicide.
If you would like to attend the conference we do still have some tickets left although we are now very close to capacity.
I appreciate you trying to sell me on the idea of urgency with limited space. Marketing is what I do for a living. Although, It does look like it could possibly be ok, but would be tremendously better if you invited everyone
and actually came together as one unified front.
May I wish you well and assure you that we continue to work tirelessly towards significant change in this field using the models which are proven to work around the world.
Now, while I hope you are right and bring an end to Parental Alienation: I am a little confused with this statement: If you do not care about the DSM-5 (You stated in paragraph #3) which is used in America, your current statement makes no sense.
I have added you to our mailing list and you will receive the Conference paper including details of our research which is currently being undertaken and details of the avenues where we have made impact.
Kind Regards
Analiese Leville
On behalf of The EAPAP Team
Have a Beautiful day.